Surely they make money off of passengers on non QF operated flights that use the lounge? I always as

The superjumbo's additional flying sta travel australia range compared to the Boeing 747 will also see the current Brisbane stopover sta travel australia on the home stretch between Dallas and Sydney axed, with the A380 flying non-stop on its return journey.
DFW airport is upgrading one terminal with three extra aerobridges to load passengers on the double-decker jet, while Qantas' partner Emirates is set to begin A380 flights between DFW and Dubai from October 1.
This schedule change unlocks more A380 flying time that we can use on the Dallas route, sta travel australia and now offers four times the number of onward connections to Europe because of the new arrival time of the Melbourne flight into Dubai" said Qantas CEO Alan Joyce.
Qantas says the current mix of Boeing 747 and Airbus A380 flights from Sydney to Hong Kong will also face "adjustments", although the airline hasn't yet revealed whether the A380 will disappear from Asia entirely.
I'm happy to see the A380 jumping on to the route for the SYD-DFW and DFW-SYD Non stop on the return leg, but dissapoined as I live in Brisbane that there used to be 3 747ER daily at BNE but now Because of the DFW-BNE-SYD going along with the BNE-SIN become an A330, i Guess that just leaves BNE-LAX left with the 747ER. Would of loved to of seen BNE with a 2nd A380 member.
Noooooooooo! It is going to be sad to lose QF 8 from BNE. We had a very close working relationship her and I, those early mornings in the lounge before it got busy, the perfect timing for a business day in Sydney with well times onward connections and not forgetting those cheeky attempts at buying duty free booze. Take care dear seat 3F, or your new A380 equivalent, I will miss you.
did some searching...looks like QF 127/128 will be 744 only TUES and WEDS.(traditionally lower peak days anyway)... remaining days still A380... no big deal in my opinion..the 744 will still have the A380 type of product.. Losing 28 F/C seats and 12 J/C a week may actually improve their yields sta travel australia on this route.... just my opinion
sta travel australia i searched QANTAS.com... OCT,NOV,DEC2014..JAN,FEB,MAR,APR2015...multiple/random weeks in every month shows 744 tue-wed QF127/8..there are 2 747ERs coming off the DFW route (A380 style product)... and i am certain 2 more nonrefurbs are being retired this year (a better case for the refurbs being deployed on SYD-HKG)
Yes, I think the point being is QF has not loaded any changes yet. I read that the MEL/LHR, SYD/DFW are bookable from 14th May. We may know the A380 changes then, or perhaps sooner if QF enlightens David/Chris.
Yeah, I think once the timetable is changed this will drop. Old mate Watson may know, but I calculate QF has saved 1 x A380 by retiming MEL/DXB/LHR.... they need more than one to do SYD/DFW 6 times weekly.
1 from LHR and 1 from HKG ...and sta travel australia dont forget that there are 12 A380 and 9 744 refurbs all playing their role in their respective networks..coming and going and resting all over the place..its not as straight forward as '1 plane from here..now goes there'
I suspect that they get more than one A380 back in terms of flying hours, with them being able to reslot the flight diagrams. It's now become an MEL turn, with the aircraft most likely doing a SYD-DXB-LHR-DXB-MEL-DXB-LHR-DXB-SYD diagram.
Haha, I don't actually work for QF in any capacity. I'm just a Silver member who happens to have an unhealthy interest sta travel australia in how aviation works. I happen to like timetables. (And lounge access, sta travel australia racking up points for that magical redemption, and other more "normal" sta travel australia frequent flyer addictions.)
In any case, that prediction was basically the running one. It allows the best spread of flights given only two are left, and via DXB doesn't have the same scheduling constraints that via SIN did (i.e. the problems of night departures arriving too early in the morning).
Since they have an odd number of planes (5) it will have to operate sta travel australia as you say. QF 1 will arrive at 5am and this will become QF 10 leaving at 1330 so about 8 hours on the ground. QF 9 gets in after lunch and becomes QF 2 that night.... I think.
i think the amount of 'cargo' underneath may also influence the outcome as well.. im guessing there's lots of planning/balance involved on 'where' the total weight is distributed.. in cabin v under cabin!! eg..high cargo flights may lead to more 'empty' seats and vv..it could change from flight to fllight... just my opinion
This is a smart move by Qantas. However, I'm a massive fan of the 747 so I'm pleased my upcoming flight to Dallas is on the 747ER. Flights by the Boeing 747 are becomign rarer and rarer around the world.
" On the return journey, QF10 is wheels-up from London at 1:30pm, landing in Dubai at 11:25pm. From there, it's touchdown in Melbourne at 8:55pm two calendar days after departing London" Is this correct? It's only two days later if QF10/QF2 departs LHR in the evening and arrives MEL, SYD early morning. The total flight time is just under 24h (including transit). Since 13.30h GMT is roughly 23.30h AEST, you would get in only ONE calender day after departing London. Am I wrong?
QF9 is now leaving at the more sensible time 2255h - Hoorah! Will the Qantas First Lounge be open till 2300h? (I wish I may, I wish I might....). That would be fantastic for the CX, MH and QR flights leaving at that time!
I was also wondering sta travel australia about the F-lounge ... also good for the MEL-NRT JQ flight which leaves at 10:30 ... I was very disappointed to realise that in Sept when on that flight the lounge would not be open late enough, but hopefully this changes things!
Perhaps I'm being silly but I've always figured sta travel australia that the First dining options are quite fancy because they only really need to offer food for QF9 pax (and the odd few OWE on the CX and MH afternoon flights). All other QF international flights leave in the morning, where presumably the margins for serving breakfast is much, much lower.
Potentially - probably labelled something Perry-esque like 'Supper Menu' or 'Light Bites' though. I wouldn't envisage crappier food but narrower options that don't require significant man power to produce.
Surely they make money off of passengers on non QF operated flights that use the lounge? I always assumed so and is why CX give you a printed invite to the lounge, so they can easily track the passengers using it etc.
QF has joint ventures sta travel australia with both AA and EK. EK has been trying to get codeshares with AA for a while. Maybe there could be a joint photo op with EK and QF A380s and an AA 77W with an announcement of bringing AA into the EK/QF deal.
It's great to see a good news story about Qantas in the media with everyone posting positive comments! Let's hope these SYD/DFW and MEL/DBX/LHR sta travel australia changes sta travel australia are the start of a new chapter for QF International.
If a good connection at DFW was scheduled, it would only be two hours longer than QF1. Two legs of 15hrs 25mins and 9hrs 10mins with a two hour stopover. But agreed, leave that sector to BA/AA. It's a good business model to dominate the route into a partner hub and utilise their network capacities for onward connections in a bigger market.
Which begs the question why Qantas doesn't fly all Australian sectors to Dubai and leave it to Emirates to provide the onward connections. Both airlines win. As it is, Emirates flies a lot of metal into and out of Australia and exclusively for QF customers in Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane heading sta travel australia to Europe/ME. Shouldn't that be Qantas? Or do they lack the a/c? I can understand EK flying into Sydney and Melbourne and providing greater scheduling choice, but why has QF ceded home markets to them in other state capitals? The demand is obviously there.
Forgive me for sounding immature but... YESSSSSSSSSSSSS. Finally sta travel australia Qantas has gotten something right by seeing America as its savior. Coming back non-stop is the cherry on top but bit of a shame that its not daily (we cant have everything right?). Also kudos on the LHR timetable changes, I t hink that the timings are great for dubai and london arrival ex melbourne, especially for tourists. Better than landing in melbourne at 5 in the morning or dubai in the middle of the night.
Wonder sta travel australia if there is any chance this will reduce fares on this route. I have noticed DFW fares being consistently higher than LAX even though a lot more people seem to fly through LAX. Maybe the increase supply of seats will mean slightly lower prices.
I'll agree It would be nice if they would lower the fares to DFW, considering in the most recent sale it was $1300 to LAX and $1600 to DFW. But, the times I have flown it the 747 has not had a seat free, i'm one of those people who would rather do customs in DFW and then only tough it for an hour or two to most east coast cities.
Y'all know full well that if QFi can charge $1600 to DFW and leave almost completely full, they will continue to do so. It's a monopoly sta travel australia route with excellent connecting feed at both ends, and from the business perspective it is a godsend.
sta travel australia Doing DFW return via BNE in Aug Sep for the 3rd time and love that i get the 747. As someone else has said, these flights are becoming as rare as. In the bubble up stairs in the private feeling business class over and the 3A back. Did this trip about 2 weeks after launch on a 747 and great that i finish up 3 weeks before they go to A380.