The flight time to either Seville or Malaga is 1:35. Add 3.5 hours to account for travel to/from and

Since you can't do all of Spain and Italy in 17 days, you should first look at some guidebooks and choose 4 or 5 stops. cruising the anime city an otaku guide to neo tokyo It will be easier to advise you if we know where you want to go. I assume since you say the trip must end in Madrid that you already have your airline reservations.
Consider not back tracking to Madrid, By that I mean consider flying straight out of Madrid after arriving to Italy - you turn Madrid into just a connection to Italy. Then work your way back. Between Italy and Spain I think you should cruising the anime city an otaku guide to neo tokyo really fly if you want to save what would amount to a day on the ground. There are also some incredibly cheap flights between Barcelona/Madrid and Italy at times. Within Spain, cruising the anime city an otaku guide to neo tokyo the high speed trains compete favourably with flying, timewise, but you can often really find some spectacular pricing deals on the flights and it might swing the decision.
It's not exactly something I would try. If as the other said you don't want to spread yourself too thin and have a couple of places in each country you really want to see and could "limit" yourself to, let us know.
Wow! Thanks. Yes, plane tickets are already bought. We need to drop off and pick up someone in madrid, before going home. My daughter, she is going to stay with a friends family in Mar Menor, Murcia...for three weeks. My son really wanted to see Italy. He states, Venice, Rome, Florence. cruising the anime city an otaku guide to neo tokyo In Spain, barcelona. I believe those are his main spots of interests. I'm doing this trip for my kids, so, it doesn't much matter where I go. The above idea may not be bad. We could skip Seville cruising the anime city an otaku guide to neo tokyo and maybe train to Malaga and train back to madrid. Would that work? We could do the madrid part on the days prior to travel and after, before flying home. We land in madrid on July 21 morning. We could head out July 22. Just need to be back in madrid by aug 9, maybe 10. Depends when they bring her back to Madrid. Probably 9th, I'm assuming. Thoughts?
You're essentially talking about visiting top to bottom of Spain, plus Italy in two weeks - 6 cities cruising the anime city an otaku guide to neo tokyo in total, with 1/2 days travelling between most of them (certainly cruising the anime city an otaku guide to neo tokyo at least the ones you fly to and from), leaving you about two days in each city.
I think you should do four at most, as that reduces your travelling time and maximises your time in certain cities. Rome, for example, needs at least four days, Florence cruising the anime city an otaku guide to neo tokyo really at least two to do it justice...
Based on what I think are your intentions, and if you are going to spend at least the first night in Madrid, you might as well stay there and do the touring all at once, returning only the night before you depart (assuming cruising the anime city an otaku guide to neo tokyo that is the 10th).
You can certainly substitute Malaga for Seville - Seville is a little closer and easier to reach from Madrid so there would be less travel time and there also are a few more options for close by day trips. If the coast is what you want to see then Malaga it is.
This is a jammed trip. With the time it takes to travel from city to city, you will have precious little time to see the cities. I would eliminate one place to give the others enough time. Though I love Seville and Malaga is fine, I tould eliminate those for this trip. If you want to go anyway, cruising the anime city an otaku guide to neo tokyo I would definitely choose Seville orver Malaga - you can see the sea while in Barcelona.
Just as soon as your itinerary is fixed, I'd start looking at hotels. Give us a budget and we can make suggestions. You're doing a lot of traveling in the busiest cruising the anime city an otaku guide to neo tokyo time of the year; you don't want to waste time looking around for some place to stay.
I'm liking the one that includes Italy since my son really wants to go there. Question: couldn't we take a train to Seville from Barcelona? Would that be easier? I've heard that waiting for an airplane can be just as long as taking a train..? I guess we could skip Malaga, if that makes sense? Would we want to try and fit monticonti in? Not sure if I spelled th right. But, I do like all ideas. But, the one by aramis would make my son happy. Thoughts? Us, next would come transportation thoughts and hotels. cruising the anime city an otaku guide to neo tokyo I don't need fancy, just safe and assessable to where we want to be ( with easy transportation, visiting...)...
The trip suggested by Aramis is mostly travel, little time to enjoy the destinations. I would drop Seville/Malaga for several reasons. It is very hot at the time you are traveling and including it forces you to miss time other places.
Sure you can take the train to Seville from Barcelona - the fastest one is 5 hours and the average high speed trip takes 5:30. The fastest train to Malaga is about 5:15 and the average high speed one just under 6 hours.
The flight time to either Seville or Malaga is 1:35. Add 3.5 hours to account for travel to/from and airport time and you might be door to door in 5 hours for either. The average all in train time to Seville would be about 6.5 hours and to Malaga, about 7 hours, allowing for 30 minutes at either end.
Right now, non-stop one-way airfare cruising the anime city an otaku guide to neo tokyo to Malaga in late July is about 47 Euros ($64) and to Seville about 97 ($129) Euros. I don't think you will be likely to get those prices on the high speed train so the decision will probably come down to a price/time analysis.
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