That is true..US Airways light 191 is PHL - PHX - SAN , I would expect that Flight Number to drop wh

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Normally I consider Business Traveler a good source of information, but with it not having been officially approved in other areas, I find this a bit odd for them to be doing this right? Is this otherwise expected/normal for them to already be changing malaysia travel and tourism flight numbers this early on?
I don't know about this article .. We would not be doing this just yet. The merger has to be approved by the DOJ and has to close before any moves such as this can be made . Merger closing malaysia travel and tourism date is scheduled for Aug 31 . Expect the rebranding of US to AA to go full speed ahead in Sept .
There won't be enough unique flight numbers to go around when AA and US combine, with Phase 1 being code-shares beginning after close of escrow, Phase 2 after integration being marketed only as AA but operated under the US certificate and finally as a single operator. It's unlikely the merger malaysia travel and tourism won't go forward, so this is work they can and need to do ahead of time. It's happened before with the absorption of AirCal, Reno Air and TWA, adjusting flight malaysia travel and tourism number ranges to expand mainline flights, with Eagle/Connection and code-share flights being moved to new ranges. AA separately identifies mainline, Eagle, funnel flights, other-airline code-shares and charter/maintenance/ferry flights by flight number ranges, such as 1-2999, 3000-x000, malaysia travel and tourism etc. This time, eventual single-carrier mainline flight malaysia travel and tourism number ranges will push into the current Eagle ranges, so the Eagle flights need to be consolidated when possible as there aren't big blocks of flight number ranges left to accommodate the expanded flight schedules. They'll squeeze existing ranges such as they are doing with assigning the same flight number to both directions of a round-trip. It will probably also increase the number of through-flight numbers and change-of-gauge flights, reducing malaysia travel and tourism the number of point-to-point flight numbers.
In doing this in advance, they can begin selling the new US code-share malaysia travel and tourism flights after escrow, and that is the necessary preparation malaysia travel and tourism for the eventual migration of US reservations into AA /Sabre. Separate pre-merge AA and US records will be maintained until the migration to the single AA operating certificate. Until then, an interim PHL - CLT flight may have an AA flight number, but will have to be disclosed as "Operated by US Airways".
Quoting etops1 ( Reply 1 ): I don't know about this article .. We would not be doing this just yet. The merger has to be approved by the DOJ and has to close before any moves such as this can be made . Merger closing malaysia travel and tourism date is scheduled for Aug 31 . Expect the rebranding of US to AA to go full speed ahead in Sept .
That's what I thought, the airlines supposedly malaysia travel and tourism are not allowed to communicate with each other in terms of arranging flights or flight numbers, but for code share purposes I suppose it would entirely make sense.
malaysia travel and tourism Quoting Wingtips56 ( Reply 2 ): There won't be enough unique flight numbers to go around when AA and US combine, with Phase 1 being code-shares beginning after close of escrow, Phase 2 after integration being marketed only as AA but operated under the US certificate and finally malaysia travel and tourism as a single operator. It's unlikely the merger won't go forward, so this is work they can and need to do ahead of time. It's happened before with the absorption of AirCal, Reno Air and TWA, adjusting flight number ranges to expand mainline flights, with Eagle/Connection and code-share flights being moved to new ranges. AA separately identifies mainline, Eagle, funnel flights, other-airline code-shares and charter/maintenance/ferry flights malaysia travel and tourism by flight number ranges, such as 1-2999, 3000-x000, etc. This time, eventual single-carrier mainline flight number ranges will push into the current Eagle ranges, malaysia travel and tourism so the Eagle flights need to be consolidated when possible as there aren't big blocks of flight number ranges left to accommodate the expanded flight schedules. They'll squeeze malaysia travel and tourism existing ranges such as they are doing with assigning the same flight number to both directions of a round-trip. It will probably also increase the number of through-flight numbers and change-of-gauge flights, reducing the number of point-to-point flight numbers.
I don't get why there aren't enought flight numbers. The new AA will operate 6.700 daily flights, and there are 9.999 possible flight numbers, so there are more than 3.000 flights numbers left to accomodate charters, codeshares and maintenance flights. If you take into account that a lot of 1 stop flights have the same number, there is even a wider margin. I do understand, however, that all the Eagle and Connection flights numbers have to be changed to leave available numbers for the new mainline flights operated by US first, then by AA .
That's what I thought, the airlines supposedly are not allowed to communicate with each other in terms of arranging flights or flight numbers, but for code share purposes I suppose it would entirely make sense
I'd think that sort of "communication" would have to do with COORDINATION of flights and flight numbers that would relate to any business advantage. The mere list of flight numbers malaysia travel and tourism to avoid duplication wouldn't even need to involve "communication" just download a timetable.
AA also operate a vast amount of codeshare flights, AA flights number on BA metal / other OW airlines. Take BA alone, that must add many hundreds of flight numbers to the system considering most domestic and shorthaul euro flights ex LHR have the AA flight number attached.
As long as the don't touch the historic malaysia travel and tourism AA flight numbers that, in some cases, have been in existence longer than USAirways (or America West), I'm happy. AA1 should remain JFK - LAX , AA100 should be JFK - LHR , AA50 DFW - LHR , EZE - MIA AA900, etc. To me, it would just seem so unbecoming of the nation's largest airline, and a truly global carrier, to have some of those low, "prestigious" flight numbers "wasted" on ORD - PHX , etc.
Quoting commavia ( Reply 7 ): As long as the don't touch the historic AA flight numbers that, in some cases, have been in existence longer than USAirways (or America West), I'm happy. AA1 should remain JFK - LAX , AA100 should be JFK - LHR , AA50 DFW - LHR , EZE - MIA AA900, etc. To me, it would just seem so unbecoming of the nation's largest airline, and a truly global carrier, to have some of those low, "prestigious" flight numbers "wasted" on ORD - PHX , etc.
I agree, it is quite historic, but as we saw at United, they didn't care and changed it around a bit too. Doug has been good about History and remembering it (look at the retro liveries he started). Hopefully he will be able to keep some of those numbers intact on the well known routes.
I'd think that sort of "communication" would have to do with COORDINATION of flights and flight numbers that would relate to any business advantage. The mere list of flight numbers to avoid duplication wouldn't even need to involve malaysia travel and tourism "communication" just download a timetable.
malaysia travel and tourism That is true..US Airways light 191 is PHL - PHX - SAN , I would expect that Flight Number to drop when the merger is complete or the Flight Numbers malaysia travel and tourism are coordinated. No one wants to see AA Flight 191 again, even if it's operating under US Airways at the moment.
Having worked with systems that key off the AA flight malaysia travel and tourism number ranges, I can say that they don't just use open flight numbers. I don't know the exact ranges in use at present, but if only for the sake of demonstration:
Automation uses the ranges to determine if tickets can be issued, bags can be checked through, pets can be checked through, malaysia travel and tourism unaccompanied malaysia travel and tourism minors can be checked-in through, Priority Parcel and Cargo applications, Transportation (bump) vouchers issued as AA or Eagle (separate tills), ticket malaysia travel and tourism refunds, on-lne vs. interline pricing, mishandled baggage reporting, DOT on-time malaysia travel and tourism performance, and so on.
We had to change the logic in the voucher coding a couple of different times in my tenure when former Eagle flight numbers ranges were reassigned as mainline flights, and Eagle upper-end ranges pushed back, and code-share lower and upper ends pushed back.
So when the US flights come in first as code-shares and later as AA Operated by US, those will probably require some changes to the code-share ranges. When they ultimately come in as AA Certificated Mainline flights, malaysia travel and tourism that will push the current upper end (for demonstration, 2999) into the 3000's. Eagle flights would have to crunch down into fewer available flight numbers, hence the need to double up segments with one shared flight number.
AA -US code-sharing could happen at any time, while painting aircraft and applying AA numbers to the US-certificate operating flights could not begin until after final approval and the corporate holding company merge is done. Then the integration begins, slowly.
Quoting Wingtips56 ( Reply 10 ): o when the US flights come in first as code-shares and later as AA Operated by US, those will probably require some changes to the code-share ranges. When they ultimately come in as AA Certificated Mainline flights, that will push the current upper end (for demonstration, 2999) into the 3000's. Eagle flights would have to crunch down into fewer available flight numbers, hence the need to double up segments with one shared flight number.
Good insight. It's one of those thing only we nerds worry about, but it will