And as of last Monday the next 50 - 60 flights I'm doing will be with VA due to the better offering

"Qantas s reduced dominance with large accounts likely reflects Virgin s graduation to full service carrier, in the sense that its now completed domestic offering is sufficient metrolink los angeles for the high demands of larger accounts" Morgan Stanley analyst Nicholas Markiewicz told The Financial Review .
Ironically, Markiewicz adds that the customers preferred Qantas over Virgin Australia in every category bar price but price has become the primary driver for corporate travel managers, which in turn has seen Virgin gaining ground due to its lower fares.
That isn't true - Qantas metrolink los angeles are in fact flying back to places they had perviously stopped flying to. The Gold Coast, Hamilton Island and Whitsundays - are three recent examples. They are also amping up flying to Hawaii. They have downed metrolink los angeles capacity in markets like Auckland that is already over-serviced with EK's A380's and Air NZ...
If I was QF, I wouldn't be too worried about this 'segmented survey'...but if ALL segments of travel on QF decreased...then I would be concerned.... And I gotta love it when 'analysts' predict a bigger loss for QF, compared to VA....ahhhhh...derrrr... QF has a bigger fleet/more routes, thus are exposed to more influences than VA
I had a CEO of large Australian company metrolink los angeles ring me this morning, one of the topics metrolink los angeles we spoke about was how irate he was with Qantas, "They aren't acting like a market leader there acting like a third grade side making changes to there business models without any insight to the consumer demands".
And as of last Monday the next 50 - 60 flights metrolink los angeles I'm doing will be with VA due to the better offering they have on their flexi fares and the reward program. The current business offering from Virgin out weights Qantas hands down. I flown Qantas - TAA for 40 plus years, treat consumers like crap and we move on.
I have to agree with you about the rewards metrolink los angeles program.For Instance can you earn points servicing your car at Midas with Qantas FF?The Answer is NO or what about places QF don't even serve in their own right anymore directly.Try live in Adelaide and you want to go to Singapore SIA I get points on in qualifying fare classes and there is plenty of other reasons I can think of.I have flown Business Class on the then Australian Airlines as a kid way back in 1989 and it was a lot better metrolink los angeles than what we have today Now It's turned since the Merger with Qantas across the board to crap and I only now fly the latter if someone else pays or the schedules are that little bit better.
" Ironically, Markiewicz adds that the customers preferred Qantas over Virgin Australia in every category bar price but price has become the primary driver for corporate travel managers, which in turn has seen Virgin gaining ground due to its lower fares."
Qantas are better at everythying bar price - what a load of garbage. metrolink los angeles I would pay more to fly Virgin rather metrolink los angeles than Qantas anyday. As for Qantas flying back to places they had previously stopped flying to?? Internationally, they have the least amount of services to all Australian Capital cities with the axe falling on Adelaide and Perth and reductions everywhere else including NZ. Again they have retreated from competition instead of facing it head on. The choice is simple for me and many corporates as they begin to experience the difference. Virgin metrolink los angeles lounges far better and less crowded than Qantas metrolink los angeles Clubs, all staff friendly with great customer ethics on the ground and on board. The Virgin expereince in Business class completely trumps Qantas on coast to coast routes, and Virgin's metrolink los angeles fleet is a great dealer younger than Qantas'
It is absolutely fantastic that people are loving VA. Hopefully the increase in demand would mean higher fares for VA vis a vis QF. That would provide us QF fans (I use the term loosely) the price justification to fly QF!
I cant agree on your last point there. metrolink los angeles I am Plat with Virgin and Gold with Qantas yet consistently get award redemptions more easily through Qantas. I am talking international J and F, lets face it the only awards worth taking. For example, I just booked Adelaide metrolink los angeles London with award points with 3 weeks notice and got first class for three of the four legs with Emirates and business for the London Dubai leg (the shortest as it turns out) with BA. The best Virgin could do was economy for three legs and business for Abu Dhabi - Sydney, meaning I still had to transit via Sydney before getting home to Adelaide, a horrible connection. Singapore Airlines are the major problem here as they dimply dont release many or any first or business award seats to Velocity. While I prefer flying Virgin domestically, the inability to get business or first redemption sometimes even up to 12 months out is seriously having me reconsider giving metrolink los angeles the bulk of my travel to Qantas.
metrolink los angeles Sorry I was talking metrolink los angeles domestic East Coast using points, International is a different story. Still the taxes are a killer on Qantas, considering metrolink los angeles I paid $1,400 per ticket X 4 return to New York in November last year with Qantas and they gave us 6 seats at the front of economy on the return leg (Thank you BA First Class check in staff in NY)
Thats true the taxes are higher with Qantas, I paid $1,600 for my return trip. Still its around $17,000 worth of value and most importantly I was able to actually get the tickets! It really erks me that one of the reasons I started flying Virgin was because Singapore Airlines joined the alliance, yes I could fly direct from Adelaide to Asia. But what use are they if you can NEVER ever get redemption with them. I dont know anyone that has ever been able to get a J or F seat with them and economy metrolink los angeles is simply a waste of points, you may as well pay after taxes!
The trip I spoke about in November from NY the cabin manager offered to push my wife and myself into business, my wife wouldn't leave the 2 adult kids in economy by themselves, seriously metrolink los angeles true story. Would have worked out to $700.00 for a business metrolink los angeles seat LA - Sydney.
Not sure how the comparison is even possible on all but price. Qantas is a step change better than Virgin. Almost metrolink los angeles comparing apples metrolink los angeles and oranges. Qantas has by far the better lounge in Perth (I don't know VA lounges elsewhere) and service has been consistently excellent for a sustained period now. The staff grumpiness metrolink los angeles appears to have worn off and the flight experience has improved significantly as a result. The check-in process is better and quicker metrolink los angeles than Virgin. Qantas just feels a more classy proposition. It is really hitting the mark more often now. I'm not surprised the survey shows it wins on all counts bar cost.
On a related note, I just checked in for BA SYD to SIN in F and using my new BA f/f number. I mentioned how disillusioned I am with QF and their enhancements and she said that there is a sizeable shift away from qantas since they moved their UK flights to transit Dubai and even more since the f/f enhancements. metrolink los angeles This isn't just her opinion, it is coming from her management. Not sure who she works for at Sydney, she was in QF uniform though. I would be interested if anyone else has heard this.